Good morning,
An excellent statement from the Chairman this morning in relation to the criminal blitzing of N17 by opportunist scum yesterday. The full message is on the official site of course but the jist is that practical measures need to be engaged to organise a physical clean up of the area and the regeneration plans are core to the well being of not only businesses but private citizens who live locally.
On yesterday’s blog we trod a tricky path where with I think one exception I didn’t censor the views of those that felt that this wasn’t a multicultural riot and that specifically only one or two ethnic types were to blame. Despite there being numerous images available of whitey, shoulder to shoulder with criminals of all creeds.
I’d like to thank the bulk of the rest of that blog’s contributors who understood what was happening and didn’t brand me a racist cohort or the entire blog a platform for neo Nazis. As I have commented before, I’d have the BNP on TV every night at 9pm until every whitey in the country had watched enough to understand these people are actually deranged.
You don’t do away with things by hiding them away. I’m a fine one to talk, but it’s very much like going to the dentist. Horrible little cavities don’t go away on their own, you ignore them they rot and eventually the entire tooth is lost.
What has emerged in the aftermath of all this is that London, if not Britain is in trouble. Too many people have slipped through society’s net. Some appear to have been forcibly squeezed through it. People have to understand that this isn’t because they are of any particular ethnicity, this is to do with how they live.
It’s very easy to say, ‘Society is going to the dogs’ and turn the page of your newspaper looking for another article that points out who to blame but these kids aren’t just in trouble, they’re doomed. We need to actively save the next generation from following this current lot of hopeless losers and habitual petty criminals over the same abyss.
Here’s a picture from Twitter of a looter with his spoils. It looks a legitimate enough snap to me. I’d like you to just look what he has spread upon his table and then at the guy’s face for a minute. He’s genuinely happy. Like a child on Christmas morning. You could find that expression on any of a hundred thousand Facebook Albums; as one of a group having a few drinks at a party, as a guy stood in front of the Eiffel Tower on his holidays. He’s happy.
How desperate is this poor gits life that charging into a shop in darkness with the bells peeling and flames raging grabbing ‘stuff’ in the half light makes him happy? He’s amassed a few DVDs or computer games there, some fragrance, a couple of things to help him make Skype calls and a barrel of that stuff that body builders eat. Not sure what’s in the yellow tubs, it might be hair wax at a guess.
This chap is actually in trouble and I’m not talking about having his boat race on my website.
He’s in trouble because black, white, yellow or purple people like him are growing in number because society has decided to actively ignore them. Government after government has ignored them. The schools can’t cope because they are underfunded and outdated. Did anyone watch Jamie Oliver’s Dream School? I know, I know, he’s a lisping gooner mockney but we mustn’t descrimnate.
Kids like the kids on that show are being groomed by a society that hasn’t so much failed them as totally disregarded them. I honestly wonder if someone in a smoke filled room at Number 1o doesn’t explain to every new PM that, ‘well who do you think is going to serve the fast food? We can’t give everyone a leg up, the country would fall to it’s knees, old boy.’
I came into possession very early this morning of a document produced by the Met last night in relation to this situation. Just in case anyone reading thinks this is a storm particular to the N17 tea cup. Here are some extracts as I’ve been asked not to link to the page itself.
Police are tonight responding to copycat criminal activity across London and are deploying officers to tackle it.
There has been looting in a number of boroughs in north, east and south London by small and mobile groups. Groups of youths continue to attack police officers and a number of police vehicles have been damaged.
Three officers have been taken to hospital after being hit by a fast moving vehicle at approx 00:45hrs. The officers were in the process of making arrests in Chingford Mount, Waltham Forest, in connection with youths looting a shop. Two officers are believed to have superficial injuries and the other has an injury to his knee.
Earlier tonight in Walthamstow Central more than 30 youths, many in masks, vandalised and looted a number shops including BHS. Officers attended the area and the situation is currently under control. Groups of youths are continuing to target shops in Waltham Forest and officers are on scene.
In Brixton there has been disorder and looting. LFB are dealing with a fire at Footlocker on Brixton High Road.
Rival gangs attended Kings College Hospital after two victims of minor stabbings were admitted resulting in a fight. The hospital has brought in additional security for the remainder of the night and officers remain on scene dealing with the initial stabbings.
In Enfield Town Centre and surrounding areas the disorder has been contained. Resources are in the area and the High Street remains cordoned off to contain the disorder.
Approximately 50 youths congregated in Oxford Circus. Officers attended the area and the situation is currently under control.
In Islington there were reports of a group causing a disturbance and a police vehicle windscreen was smashed.
A Tesco store in Ponders End was vandalised and items were stolen.
So look at the photo of the looter and don’t just say ‘he’s black’, that’s as useful as pointing out he’s wearing a green t shirt. You’re not looking properly. Look at the happiness. His life is so hopeless that his haul of distempered rubbish has actually made him happy.
If you care enough to berate him could I ask that you also care enough to ask the next fawning politician who knocks on your door to explain just how they are going to make kids like the boy in the photo as happy because he just had a good day at work. As happy because he got a pay rise. As happy because he could afford to take his Aunty up West to buy a new pair of glasses on his day off.
And that’s why I wrote this. To commend THFC as a large employer in the war zone for wanting to try at least to make a difference. Your job dear reader is not bitch about colour but bitch about why the schools are so bad, why the housing so meager.You’re right to be angry, just make sure you focus it on the right people, eh?
BIOYC!
I’m a long time reader of this blog but I’ve never posted a comment, but I have to this time. Well done Harry. An absolute quality story. Take a bow. Fantastic read. ???
I saw this picture splashed all over twitter but I have seen no actual proof as to where it came from. Could be that it actually is someone on Christmas morning. Certainly seems to be pretty proud of his haul, arranged it very tidily for the photo.
Dunno, just saying, I saw so much nonsense being spouted last night on twitter by people reporting from inside their homes that they heard a siren outside hence must be trouble in the vicinity etc that I’d take it ALL with a pinch of salt.
Aside from that, good blog, whether the photo is genuine or not you make good points about it, whereas most uses of it so far are to say ‘HAHA LOOK AT THIS SAD BASTARD’ – if it is a genuine pic it is sad for the reasons you describe well, which aren’t so amusing.
@ Harry Hotspur. I don’t mind you using the term “Whitey”.
I’m white and I couldn’t care less if I’m called a Whitey or even Honkey…
HH here. I’ve removed the rest of this comment because all it will serve to do is direct the ensuing comments into a fit of ‘you racist dog!’ at East End Spur.
I’m not convinced East End Spur is a racist, he’s certainly bigoted but who among us isn’t to some extent; but I really can’t be bothered to watch the whole blog turn into a ‘shocked from Tunbridge Wells’ gig.
People get sick of their neighbours. I mentioned the other day how incredibly noisy they are just getting into their bloody car. It never occurred to me how incredibly white or black or Japanese they were…
@ Harry Hotspur. You’ve censored me because you couldn’t reply with a logical reply.
In other words, you only want to read/hear what YOU want to read/hear.
It proves that I was right about the ‘left-wing fascist’ bit, doesn’t it!?
You do realise that ‘left-wing’ fascist is a contradiction in terms, right? I would give you the benefit of doubt that your misuse is ironic and intentional, but I don’t think your posts in general display enough intelligence.
It might be a contradiction to you Lilly, but fascist means dictatorship and a left-wing dictator is what you subscribe to.
And, like I said before, I couldn’t care less how patronising and insulting you try to be. I have no respect for arrogant, little Commies, like you.
Up The Spurs!
No, East End Spur, I’ve censored you because you made the same point yesterday and to be frank ‘send the buggers back’ isn’t the answer.
All leaving your comments up in full will do is kill this blog from having constructive comments worth reading.
I find ‘You racist ****’ comments as boring to look at as ‘I don’t like darkies’ comments.
My remit has always been to produce an occasionally good read. So you banging on about how many Bangladeshies fought and died in WW1 (as you were yesterday) is not only obscene but also irrelevant.
Read what I added to the comment posted by ‘banana’ below.
And if you still feel you need to comment in the same manner, I can block you. Not for wanting ‘freedom of speech’ but for being dull.
I missed the comment, but if the question was a rhetorical “How many Bangladeshis died fighting for us in WW1” it needs to be pointed out that Bangladeshi was originally known as East Pakistan, and didn’t exist before the 70’s. East Pakistan didn’t exist until 1948, and before that time, it was a part of India.
We do know that there were 112,000 Indians killed or wounded on active service during WW1, with a further 38,000 in WW2.
@ HH. I have to be frank. You are a liar.
You’ve censored my comments and led the readers down the wrong path by saying that I came out with things like ” send the buggers back” and “I don’t like darkies.” That is a complete fabrication, and you know it!!
YOU used the term “Whitey” and I asked you if you would ever use the term “blacky”.
LIE N0.TWO: I never once mentioned (let alone “banged on”) Banngladeshis in the First or Second world wars. I asked how many would be fighting on the British side in the Iraqi and Afghanistan conflict.
More censorship on the way?
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That’s probably because you aren’t a racist then isn’t it? I dunno about your method of testing, but for me, someone who repeatedly expresses racist opinions and uses derogatory racist slurs and suchlike is probably a racist.
@ LLL. What does LLL stand for?
Lilly livered Liberal?
Calling someone racist is becoming so OLD!
I know you use that label as a weapon against anyone who has different opinions to you, but there’s a growing number of people who are sick of the loony left brigade, that call someone racist for the slightest hint of patriotism.
If it doesn’t bother me that you use that word against me, will your next attempt be to call me a fascist…then nazi?
Sticks and stones will break my bones. Not your pathetic slurs.
Well, you’ve already called me a fascist and a loony, only you know why. I called you a racist because you said loads of racist things and used racist slurs. Sorry it is getting old for you, though I would suggest that if you are so accustomed to the accusation that maybe you think about why? Or just wear it.
If the guy lives in the East End he probably experiences living with all different nationalities and is probably a lot more qualified to comment on modern London than the majority of the guys who are commenting on here who are based in the countryside and think that because they pop down WHL every fortnight that they somehow understands what its like to live in Tottenham or London.
It was simple what happened on Saturday night, broke people robbed unguarded shops this is due to them being poor because they dont want to work, the majority of these people in London are Carribeans, its a fact, that doesnt make me racist, the polish, africans and asians are hated on and they do any type of job most english wont do.
Lazy Racism is wrong but the guy lives with them so dont write him off for no reason, he should be clearer on who he dislikes, sending everyone back doesnt really signal clearly who he is aiming at
Jay, use your eyes man. Look at the pictures and the TV footage – The crowd was a complete mix of people. All races colours and creeds – So your ‘fact’ is in fact assumption based purely on your pre-conceived ideas and what is sold to you by the tabloids.
Turning it into a ‘it’s them darkies’ slanging match is exactly what you call it… Lazy racism. There are much greater problems in London (And I too live in the middle of it, in Dalston in the heart of Hackney) and they are nothing to do with race and everything to do with opportunity and poverty.
It’s not a case of ‘not wanting to work’, do you know anything at all about the borough our club is based in? It has the highest unemployment rate in London. Everyone from it is immediately stigmatised as unemployable – but because they don’t have money to move, they can’t escape it. It’s a vicious circle that drags you down and straight into the hands of gang culture.
Think. Don’t just swallow everything the Daily Mail and it’s cohorts sell to you under the name of barely disguised xenophobia.
RE: Jay
For your information, I live a couple of miles down the A10 and could hear the sirens blaring and see the police tooling up outside my window. So I also live with ‘them’ though I don’t really see how this makes me any more or less qualified to have an opinion.
@ Jay
I never once used the term ” send them back”.
My posts have been censored and HH tried to interpret my views.
He used the term “Whitey”in his blog and I asked him if he would ever use the term blacky. He censored my question.
These liberals, such as LLL might live in the East End. But they are NOT East Enders. They’re middle class rebels that think being Working Class is trendy.
They won’t realise what’s hit them, until they come out of their £500,000 town houses and get violently confronted by a mob of Yardies. Then they’ll run back home to their leafy suburbs and to mummy and daddy.
To their credit, they do believe in some sort of utopia where everyone gets along and skips happily down Tottenham High Rd with flower chains in their hair, but they are in a fucking dream world.
P.S if you question anything they believe in, they’ll call you a thick racist.
East end spur, you know absolutely fuck all about where I live and what kind of rent I pay so please stop talking shit.
@ LLL. You are right, of course. I know fuck all about where you live etc.
But, you didn’t exactly deny what I said and I’d wager a Pound to a Penny that I’m not far off the mark!
I noticed that you posted your comment around 2am.
Was you up with the rest of country, watching BBC and Sky News, while MAINLY ethnic gangs burn our cities?
I know that there were quite a few of your white, anarchist friends involved, but surely you’re not that colour blind to see that it’s mainly violent blacks?
How long will you stay near the A10 or have you already got your bags packed?
Is this in any way similar to the problems faced by France over the last few years when many cities endured riots and burning cars throughout the summer nights?
Yes, although the unemployment among young men in France is ludicrously high. Much higher than pretty much anywhere in the UK.
Same thing is true in Spain, Greece and really most of Southern Europe. Apart from Greece (here we’ve seen widespread rioting in response to the extreme austerity measures), the only reason we haven’t seen the type of vandalism and rioting as in London is that kids are actually afraid of the police. But we will soon enough if the ruling class don’t sort out the economy soon.
With the austerity underway in most Western nations, I’m afraid thing are set to get worse before they get better. Last time the world faced an economic reality similar to what we have today, it wasn’t ever solved by politicians. It was ‘solved’ by the advent of WW2, with the massive government spending (and borrowing to levels far higher than today) and new employment opportunities it brought.
What it is that will save us this time, I have no idea, and it is quite disturbing.
I’m off to get a tin helmet and a gas mask. I think we might all need one soon.
The millennium loons, with their homemade bunkers and stockpile of canned goods may have the last laugh yet :silly:
If both local & national govt.don’t engage the local communities in decision making & participation, then all is lost. Not all can be tainted with the same ill fated brush. This is evident in all poorer communities where their cries & need’s are totally ignored by municipalities. You will not succeed without community participation period.