Good morning.
I like Danny Kelly. I think the watershed moment that turned my head was THIS. And this morning he demonstrated his unerring ability to do his job well rather than just regurgitate all the usual…
Would you swap Torres for Modders?
The addition of Adebayor I am convinced will ultimately proved to be an inspired move. Is he the world’s greatest striker? Well perhaps not as we speak. But he’s a player that evidently thrives on being given a new lease of life. Imagine a scenario were another household name were to join him.
Torres against the immediate and perhaps somewhat harrowing backdrop of his Liverpool form had a good spell one season and then went right off the boil. His £50M price tag requires not a pinch of salt but the complete suspension of ones disbelief. The figure reflected the buyers ambition, not the market value of the product.
Modric we know and indeed must accept is – barring an act of God – or a treble winning season, not stopping long. And so of all the guff that the transfer rumour mongers generate, this concoction might not have legs, but it’s difficult to deny it has a pretty face.
I know some reading this will be unthinkingly dismissive. Buy I tell you this. If you want to predict the future just think up that which is seemingly crazy today. Garages selling ice cold beers, Adebayor and Gallas in Tottenham shirts…
BIOYC!
someone listens to talk sport to much me thinks :P
it would be interesting hh to say the least
I wouldn’t want to be Levy or the other guy trying to manage THFC between now an January 31st, The Europa League will be like trying to play football carrying a lead plumduff around. If Dawson is out (still not read anything that clarifies) then two games a week with Bassong and A.N.Other alongside is a sobering prospect. I can’t see LFC getting turned over either twice in a row or four times in a row at WHL, so we’ll be weeping into ice cold beers come Sunday evening but the grimness will keep us all sober. Someone said on here that Ade did in one game what Crouch didn’t in 2 years and he was right. Just maybe there is a partnership between him and Defoe in the offing. Modric going will hurt Spurs, no two ways about it, but a Parker-Sandro combo can survive that from a footballing point of view, its morale that presents the challenge. For weird reasons there are now only 3 forwards after years of getting it wrong with four and several unfit centre-backs with a slew of games coming up. If the Totts stutter against Lpool and Stoke, then there will be a points gap and a cup exit to carry along with trying to find the pretty route between Tartars, Greeks and Shamrocks. Managing an ‘unhappy’ player in a ship with the wheels coming off is a big ask and I think way too big for HR who seems to spend more time telling the press his, and the club’s, problems than finding ways to fix them. And while I’m on it, Adam clearly ‘did’ Bale last season and HR was on the box calling him a top, top pro and saying he didn’t. What’s that about? That assassin will be back on Sunday looking to carry on. Only the fourth game and it already feels like make or break.
Kill That Adams c**t….COYS
Can we please remove the rose-tinted spectacles regarding Senor Torres? At Madrid he scored 82 goals in 214 appearances (hardly spectacular), and whilst his record at Liverpool looks impressive on paper, a number of those goals were scored against the likes of Wigan and Sunderland. Take his ‘flat-track bully’ tally away and I suspect the stats will tell a completely different story.
His international record is lamentable (worse than one in three) and the only top-flight defender I’ve ever seen him get the better of is Vidic, and that is almost certainly down to a mental block Vidic has regarding Torres than anything in particular that Torres himself has done.
He is, without doubt, *the* most overrated player currently plying a professional trade and I wouldn’t take him on a free let alone an exchange deal with possibly the best player at our club.
UnkleKev,
Torres scored against Barcelona often and also bagged goals against Real Madrid whilst at Atletico. If you want to place emphasis on his early career to give balance to his overall tally you would be wise to look at Wayne Rooney’s early career and see how many goals per game he was scoring then too as he learned to play with the men.
Re: Your Liverpool point – “Take his ‘flat-track bully’ tally away and I suspect the stats will tell a completely different story.”
He scored regularly against Arsenal, Chelsea and Man United whilst at Liverpool, braces too a couple of times.
Your flat track bully comment would apply better to Jermain Defoe, who despite scoring a few goals against those “Sky Three” whilst at West Ham really does have a “hardly spectacular” record against them. And certainly has his own number of goals against Wigan etc. to pad out his own stats.
Re: Your International record point – Since Torres’ International record features many second half substitute appearances or substitutions, to dress up his International record as being lamentable and citing goals per game as it’s basis is certainly skewing the true numbers.
In short, Torres was an excellent striker and proved himself to be just that.
Was his Chelsea valuation excessive? Of course. Did Liverpool do great business selling him? Of course. Would I want us to swap Modric for him? No. Would I want us to buy him for a vastly reduced fee? Probably not. So, I would only agree with you on is that we shouldn’t take him – whilst ignoring the other obvious potential issues such as wages that would probably be a sticking point in such a transaction occurring anyway.
But Torres was a very, very good striker in his pomp. Sadly for him those days are probably behind him. So I’m in the same camp as you UnkleKev but not exactly for any of the reasons you cited, as they seem to have massive flaws in them.
you realy are a XXXX
*HH here.. rich g mate, I’ve taken the ‘c’ word off the blog precisely for this reason.
Enjoy MS’s comments, enjoy debate.
“you really are a XXXX” is useless… it’s just hate…
I know you are better than that.
You’ve both made your case. Swap Defoe for Torres. :cop:
But we didn’t score against Wigan last season. I think that’s the point.
Of course you do realise that Danny Kelly is a closet gooner. “NO!” you cry? Well you listen to him carefully, its all ar5ena1 this ar5ena1 that, wonerful football, genious wenger etc etc etc… I’m telling you the bloke is a goon!
No,you’re completely and utterly wrong. You’re confusing a North Londoner, born and bred and of a certain age with that a parochial modern supporter. We who come from the area, used to watch both teams and talk sensibly about their strengths and weakness’ without compromising the passion our team of choice. Did you hear Kelly’s response to Lennon’s goal in the 4-4?, obviously not!
I did hear his resonse and yes it was heart felt for true, unlike colleymore’s pathic self-concious immitation when commenting on a villa game. That said I still think there is something going on with him and them. Of course his missus is a goon so he might just be under the thumb! ;-)
Mine’s a Millwall supporter and he thinks he’s got problems!, Ha!
Didn’t he host a show called Stars in your Arse, where the guests went behind a curtain and poked there head out and the audience had to guess who was the mystery guest doing them up the Harris by the expressions they pulled on thier face? Or was that matthew Kelly?
Great show. The mystery guest was always matthew Kelly though, which kind of spoiled it for me.
Wasn’t it called Arsends Wanger or am I in my usual state of confusion?
Essexian 76, hello.
I thought I ought to mention that I used to work at Channel 4 and so knew Danny when he hosted our late night sports show, Under the Moon.
Danny Kelly is 100% Spurs.
Seriously, the man loves Tottenham Hotspur.
UTS!