Guten Abend.
I have been asked to communicate this visual image to my readership as a matter of some considerable urgency. This is a task I do not undertake lightly. If you are able to name the individual at the very heart of this criminal conundrum, all to the good…
…If you can supply a really funny caption, I’ll mail you some very fine cheese.
And what’s with the delay in announcing Modders’ new contract? Is his agent stalling?
A Chelscum shirt on Modder’s washing line perhaps? :whistle:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15325543.stm
Hey, Numpty76 and Trout Chops went to the same school – spin being the priority subject. Defoe is playing fantastic football at the moment or words to that effect. 8O :daumen:
As reading isn’t a particular strong point of yours anymore than logic is, cut and paste any article of where I’ve said Defoe is playing ‘fantastic’ football or even suggested as much!
I think Trout Chops should replace B.liar as the Middle East Peace Envoy, not Crapello.
B.liar……’Peace Envoy’……the sheer two-faced, self righteous hypocrisy of the mass-murdering c*nt is unbelievable.
That f*cker (along with his cronies) should be in jail, at the very least!
*rant over*
Lamp post decorations anyone? 8O :daumen:
I’ll get the ladder, you grab a pair of pliers (Mussolini stylee) :ninja:
Nice :cool:
I just about managed to watch the live feed through the dribbling, burping and incessant feeding… The baby was out at the time with her mother! Boom boom!
Anyhow, not the most impressive performance and while fully taking on board Mysterioso’s point about the great Blanchflower quote, it’s nice to get a bit of both worlds for once.
It seemed over the last couple of seasons that for all our expansive wing play and ‘derring-do’ against the likes of Wolves & Blackburn, we invariable came away with a point at best and more often than not, nothing for our troubles. Blackpool, Wolves the Beggies etc. being great examples.
While it would be lovely to waltz around every team we play like Bruuucie Forsythe on helium, there is a certain pleasure to be taken from grinding out dirty away wins at places we have faltered at in the past… And no, that doesn’t mean I’m happy with mediocrity, easily satisfied or any other off the shelf put-down. Just glad for three points which count exactly the same as the three we got against Liverpool.
Hey Astro, you should change your name to Maestro, a Maestro at explaining away the reality of our underlying poor performances which the results completely hide.
I don’t think we do grind out results, it’s the Manures and Cheatskis that grind out results, we just ride our luck, which is OK until the luck runs out – which it will most assuredly do after Christmas —- unless…
Some real action from Levy is taken in the Jan window and it will be required if we are to secure CL football for next season.
Defoe out! :daumen:
You say tom-ay-to, I say tom-ar-to
@Astro.
I dont make you wrong on either of your two posts in this sector. In the days of 42 game seasons and two points for a win, the target was to win every home game and draw every away game. This gave you 63 points and almost certainly, the Championship if you could do this.
Now it’s three points for a win supposedly to encourage attacking football, but in that time, the gulf between top and bottom has widened, so that the lesser teams look on getting a point away to teams like ours, as almost a victory.
I think it’s fair to say that we had our share of luck this year, but even though some of the performances have not set the world on fire, our last four away games in the PL have netted us 10 points, and we have gone out to try and win them all. We have not scored and then parked the bus.
Regarding the Liverpool game, we were slaughtering them long before they started losing players, though admittedly, three of the goals came when they were short-handed, so I would not disagree with you on that.
One area that I must take you to task on, the ball never crossed the line when Gomes “threw it”.
Fair point on Gomes, I’m being a bit harsh… Will re-phrase to ‘He threw it onto the line’!!! :daumen: !!!!
Agree entirely with you on everything you say. On the Liverpool game only Derren Brown would probably be able to tell us what would have happened at 11 v 11 – but we were all over them well before the ref started brandishing cards. To run down the result because they were stupid enough to get themselves sent off just seems so unnecessarily harsh on our side… As so many of the negative posts seem to be.
We’ve picked up away wins at Wolves, Wigan and Blackburn. These are the kind of results that would have made the difference for CL football last season, and would have put us clear 3rd the season before… But we’re still moaning. Those results can’t all be down to luck, so something his being done right. I don’t want to wave flags and say that we played them off the park, of course we can always improve – Just once though, I’d like to see credit paid where it’s due.
I’m not explaining it away. Every result needs to be looked at and performances assessed. I’m just glad that we seem to have taken a slightly different approach to our away games at places like Blackburn and Wolves this season – Places where we’d tripped up too often in the past.
Too often we turned up at the likes of Wolves and thought we would walk away with three points because of pedigree, fine talent and because someone read out the Blanchflower quote on the way up the M6. Those games so far this season have seen us battle and ‘play rough’ to get the points.
I don’t get the constant gripe that other teams grind out results, whereas we ‘get lucky’. Yes, the result required that we defend well, hold our shape and the Friedel made a good save off Samba… But why is that ‘lucky’ and say Chelsea’s result against us last season where Gomes threw the ball in the net and they had an offside goal a ‘ground out win’?
It’s not a gripe and why use emotional words to try and gain an advantage? We do not easily grind out results if at all for our style of play is not a grinding out style, nor is packing our defence for 45 minutes our style, but if required the other two teams will happily do that or they’ll keep control of their midfield.
We on the other hand always look vulnerable to that equaliser or winner as at Newcastle which robbed us of two points. With Manures and Cheatski it’s the other way round, they always look like they will score that last goal that clinches the points.
Too often last season we didn’t turn up at all home and away.
Our biggest weakness is the final third and we just don’t score enough goals.
..”we just don’t score enough goals”
Agree. This set of players should be hammering teams. Not every game, granted, but when was the last time we truly smashed a team of 11 players, Wigan?
Hammering teams is nice and goal difference is always a factor but you get three points of a win if it’s 1-0, 2-1 or 6-1. What I’m saying is that last year we moaned that we didn’t win the games against the likes of Wolves and Blackburn, now we’re moaning that we’re not winning 6-0. If we won 6-0 what would you moan at next… That it’s only against Wolves and Blackburn I suppose?
There’s a fine line between wanting better and being impossible to satisfy and my main gripe with yourself and a couple of others is that you seem to habitually fall into the category of the latter. It seems to be a conditioned reflex that no matter what, as long as Redknapp is at the helm, nothing will be good enough.
i.e. We beat Liverpool 4-0, no, sorry, annihilate Liverpool 4-0 and it’s not a proper result. MS has it down as an ‘overhyped win’ and you exclude it by including the caveat ‘against 11 players’. It’s just so constantly mealy-mouthed.
When people like myself try to look on a positive side we’re derided for being apologists or that we’re happy with being mediocre. Of course I’d like us to win everything with a flourish but I can also accept effort when I see it… And the players worked hard for that win… And all the wins in the ‘irrelevant’ unbeaten run.
Although I agree in part with TM I am not looking for hammerings of 6-0, I’m looking for regular 2-0 3-1 or even 3-0 wins but without us looking as if at any minute the opposition can easily get back at us and into the game and rob us. That’s how I feel we play most of the time. Call it what you will, but I do not see convincing performances at the moment even though we are winning.
For me, it all taints of a another false dawn just around the corner unless we improve.
And yes I have no confidence in Redknapp and he has yet to prove himself with silverware – ideally the PL trophy.
The players working hard alone is not the answer. Headless chickens comes to mind, they need to play skilfully as well. If they were not capable I would say OK that’s the best we can expect let’s accept them for what they are, but this is not the case with this current squad of players, just as TM said.
Looking on the positive side is fine if there is a solid foundation for that optimism, but I just don’t see it in the way we are playing at the moment. Positive thinking without solid evidence is delusional thinking.
he has yet to prove himself with silverware – ideally the PL trophy.
This was said with tongue firmly in cheek I trust? We’re about £200m and 25,000 per week extra capacity in the stadium from that.
You do grasp just how far above our weight we consistently punch don’t you?
Just on the solid foundations thing…
We’ve gone from changing manager every 18 months and being a mid-table running joke for nearly 30 years into consistently challenging for the CL and top 4, without the need to sell the club to be an oil oligarch’s plaything.
We now consistently beat our top 4 rivals (granted, apart from Man U) at home and often away, while we have challenged and beaten some of the best in Europe in our debut CL season, when we made it to the 1/4 finals.
We have planning permission for a new stadium, are the only club with two sponsors with a new rights deal to be done for the stadium, have players valued at £40m+ and have fought off one of our fiercest rivals trying to buy one our best players to shake off the ‘selling club’ tag.
We’re sitting in a good position in the league, hovering on the shoulder of the top boys with a game in hand like a shoeless Kenyan half way through the 10,000m, and we haven’t even hit form yet.
How solid do you want them foundations?
Spot on! Have you tried a rusk yet?
Rusk… Oooooh. Nice. Late nite snack.
One for you, one for me. One for you, two for me. You not having yours? OK, three for me. Mmmmm.
:lol: They make babies worth every penny!
Stat attack. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2011-2012 is predicting we are going to finish fourth, eight points ahead of the scousers and 10 ahead of the Arse.
We are a best priced 11/20 to win our group in te EL and 100 to 1 on to qualify.
And we are one point ahead of were we were on the corresponding week of last season having played one game less, and the corresponding fixtures were a lot easier last year at that time.
So regardless of how mediocre we looked on Sunday, the stats look great,especially 10 points better than Arse.