Good Evening,
Due to technical fiasco or perhaps in a game of cards, the original blog was lost. So apologies for the deletion of your comments.
Those joining us late missed little other than a pretty damn sexy goal (yes another one from the seemingly reformed Giovanni Dos Santos
Here she is in action before they opened.
Interesting swimming stroke (The Flap) by Tim Howard as he flapped his way across the grass trying to get to the ball. I think Heurello Gomes must have the dvd. For G2S.it’s a mental hurdle he has to get over and his immaturity is his handbrake.
gio was just teasing him,that finish was a beautiful dink.
Thwack, thwack, thwack… Ouch, sorry just caught my thumb with the hammer. Thought I’d help you out with the woodwork seeing as you’re starting to building the 2011/12 ‘Hang Harry’ gibbet already.
Tiiiiiimmbeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
I think Bono is first for the trapdoor.
Never mind all that. He’ll supply plenty of his own rope.
Its amazing how cheap the potshots at Redknapp get, I mean don’t hold back it’s obvious that he’s to blame for Ledley’s knees, politicians rorting expenses and global warming!
Talented players are just lucky kids who have little if any life experience beyond a training ground and stadiums and they are preyed upon by a system that has mutated into having hangers on and sycophants and sometimes unscrupulous people “looking after” their interests.
So the basic player who wants to knuckle down and train and not shop for Ferraris, buy Armani and go to the swishest nightspots to hang out with every ordinary bloke’s fantasy women, is likely to be rare to start with. The influences both materially and from the psychological sycophancy that comes with success, all drag the player away from the prospect of hard work and abstinence.
Reddknapp has to try to take these kids in hand and persuade them that not going out on the razz and working harder is good for them, whilst their mates tell them they really need to get out and meet this gorgeous bird who will be all over them and their agent says, “don’t worry it’s OK, you walk on water”.
Meanwhile, we have no reserves any more and no way to condition these players except through loans, where they go and find they are pretty good compared with the rest of the people one division lower. Naturally some adapt to the lower pace and learning curve rather than up their conditioning.
Remember these guys are at peak fitness and aged between 18 and 23, hormones raging, unable to sit still, able to party all night and shag anything moving, they have no money limitations and are being constantly pushed by those around them to make the most of their God-like status.
Redknapp has done a bit with a few of these lads but think about the size of the task. When he arrived the culture was a Legless Ledley staggering out of clubs and Keano and Begbie power drinking around the British Isles. Letting these players go out on loan might just have taken them out of harms way!
Trying to get them up last step is really down to them and it’s not Redknapp’s place to give that, its got to be theirs to take it: that in itself is part of the process. They then need to keep it; one great game then resting on the “I’ve arrived” laurels is the next big hurdle…..and all the while the vultures circle.
We also seem to forget that our perspective has changed during the process, so that a Jamie O’Hara who was a good prospect two years ago is now no longer good enough for our new aspirations.
Harry is experienced and can be the driving coach, stern boss or surrogate parent and can mentor from the experiences he has had during a long and successful career in the Football business. He has a perspective and wisdom few others have and our players are by and large not as wild a crowd as they were.
Untoward influences are being wound back and positive influences are being brought in by way of examples of what it takes to make it and stay the course, like Gallas, Gudjohnson, Beckham and many of the coaching staff who are ex grade ‘A’ pros.
I think the club led by Harry, is doing what it can to groom these players and give them the best shot they can get, but at the end of the day you can only lead the horse to the water! I’d like to hear suggestions about what else could be done to help these players make the grade and the pat answer of “play them” doesn’t really wash as calebray’s excellent posts above points out.
A fair crack of the whip must be fair to everyone.
yes we need old heads on new bodies,then we would be laughing.I reckon if we can keep this lot together for at least 1 more year we could actually win something . I really am not in awe of the teams above us.A change up front and we are sorted.wether that change is in the heads of who weve got or new faces we need another 20 goals and the the prem would easily be ours.
I would be interested to know the stats of our goal attempts and chances over the year.AS against other clubs performances
Check out the Opta stats site!
Love the sentiment you have tried to project there Finn but it’s well documented that Eidur Gudjohnsen was a degenerate Casino gambler, so hardly a shining example of how these players should conduct themselves, at least not off the pitch! :whistle:
Taking potshots at a talented 21 year old in the press (as Redknapp did to GDS in 2010 with his smart remark) is hardly the professional approach I like to see from a manager “mentoring his player”, especially as they are both representing the club I support.
Dos Santos has obviously had issues (I’m not saying he’s been a model citizen here), but Harry’s hardly likely to win the player over and see an upturn in effort by embarrasing him in public is he? I can’t think of many people in the workplace that view public criticism/embarrassment as a motivational tool. Comments like those should remain behind closed doors, between manager and staff wherever they work.
I’m not saying Harry isn’t allowed to respond to the media if questioned (Ledley etc.) along the lines of “He should know better”, “I’ve spoken to the player and I won’t be making any further comment” or “To me the players should be looking after themselves and got be getting trolleyed” (no naming) to the press may well be appropriate. Volounteering the name of one individual to a particular mental image is not likey to have any positive galvanising effect IMO. “Sandra could have scored that”, “If only he could pass nightclubs like he can pass the ball”? Positive comments?
Dos Santos used to be compared favourably to Ronaldinho, he’s had injury issues, he’s not had many opportunities and has found it difficult to fit in at Spurs. He was often played out of position whenever he got some playing time. He hasn’t become a bad player overnight, but he likely isn’t one for us under Harry.
Unfortunatley we’re also a club desperately trying to sell our “fringe players/deadwood”, and we aren’t exactly going to ramp up any prices by declaring the fire sale so we can use the money raised go buy the likes of Scott Parker.
I don’t disagree with much of that and I think certainly now, the “corporate manager” image is more in keeping with the side we are, as opposed to the one we were when those comments were uttered. Redknapp has grown up into the role too and let’s be fair its the most senior position he’s held and you don’t become what you are overnight you learn and grow with and into, new responsibilities.
Equally though, the players have to do their part. Last year J2S got a run in the pre-season before going out on loan and he may yet be the new Ronaldinho IF he takes the bull by the horns and decides he’s a pro footballer first and a young turk second.
Harry’s way with the media which has worked for him in the main has always to be jocular and call a spade a spade. But he’s learned that comparing missing a sitter to his wife’s gifts with her head is a no-no. But with J2S it was probably a fair comment made to dig the kid in the ribs as much as anything else, whilst at the same time praising his talent!
He can be a bit prosaic on microphone, but he’s getting better and more adept about reining in his natural impulse for banter. He’s not fighting relegation anymore and he casts a bigger shadow; I think he’s doing OK despite the negative spin put on anything he utters. The whole “this is as good at it gets” was turned from its context into “we won’t improve on fifth”, virtually within the hour and was tangential to the point being made.
Looking to trip the guy at every turn misses the bigger picture of what he IS doing for the club and IS doing for the development of the players. I fail to see where he gone drastically wrong and but for the inability of two England forwards to manage to avoid scoring in so many straightforward games, would have made 4th easily. He didn’t come out and blame them publicly for it though, despite them deserving it.
If we can keep him out of chokey and sidestep the England job we have a man capable of getting us to a position of regular CL football. Not by Cheatski/Citeh-like flash spending but by creating a solid base which the likes of Liverpool, the Arse and ManU have. Just give the man a chance.
A rarity;
I agree with you on something!
Arry should keep his personal thoughts on players to himself. I am not sure what provoked his comment about G2S (passing a bar etc…) but if it was not from a direct question then it was a bad decision. However we all make them on occasions
It does seems strange that you rarely hear of Manure players having issues (under fergy that is). Maybe they have ‘arrived’ are players when they pull on that shirt. Perhaps they dont feel the same when they pull on one of ours?
On a different tack; I am very concerned at this moment in time about the stability of our club. The reasons?
1. Court Case
2. England Job
3. Sell to Buy
4. Stadium
5. Modders
Thats a lot of baggage
Harry is experienced and can be the driving coach…
Redknapp should be driving the coach (he and Kev could take turns), not coaching the Spurs.
very accurate Finn.
Maybe Arry needs to get Sherwood and all his back office team getting more involved in guiding these young and easily influenced players?
I actually do not know what Sherwood does? He cant be controlling the ressies as, like you say, there arent any (save for a few arranged matches)
Unfortunate spelling of unfortunately too there, unfortunately :-D :blush:
* to go and buy :cwy:
* not be getting trolleyed :dizzy2:
Is this a coded message to ze Germanz? I think we should be told 8O